A Conversation With Lou Sandoval – US SAILING

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US Sailing is celebrating Hispanic Heritage Month, from September 15 to October 15. The observation started in 1968 as Hispanic Heritage Week under President Lyndon Johnson and was expanded by President Ronald Reagan in 1988 to cover a 30-day period starting on September 15 and ending on October 15. It was enacted into law on August 17, 1988.  

Lou Sandoval is an executive leader and best-selling author who has held leadership positions in the corporate, private, and non-profit sectors. His latest endeavor brings him to the field of technology where he is an executive advisor helping companies digitally transform plus scale. Sandoval was named to the Chicago United Business Leaders of Color in 2021, received the Maestro Award for Entrepreneurship from Latino Leaders Magazine in 2018, and received the Whitney M. Young Jr. Service Award from the particular Boy Scouts of America for his work with Chicago inner city youth. In continued celebration of Hispanic Heritage Month, US Sailing sat down along with Lou Sandoval to discuss his success as a businessman, sailor, and father.

Breanne Boatwright: So, tell me about your history and experience in the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) space.

Lou Sandoval: We have a lot associated with positive energy regarding what’s going on in the marine industry and the particular DEI space. The consensus of the participants will be to try to really get more diversity in the sport and to highlight the particular diversity that may be there but might not be always readily visible. It’s interesting in that, there are the obvious differences of color of skin, yet I’ve always been a big advocate of making sure that we speak to diversity of all types. There’s ethnicity, gender, ability, disability, and neurodiversity.

I really got involved during my time inside leadership at the Chicago Yacht Club over the past decade. When I was Commodore a few years back, we had the honor of hosting The Blind World Championship in Chi town, and I tell you, if you want the transformational experience, watch a blind sailor sail. I do this with all my faculties and may tend to take my visual capabilities for granted at times. The beauty is seeing everyone of all sorts being able to sail and love the sport is amazing. And that’s what really speaks in order to the diversity and why it is so needed. Everyone should experience life on the water.

BB: What has your experience been like as a Hispanic man in the particular marine industry?

LS: You know, when I came in as a marine industry professional, I was one of a small handful of people that were diverse in some form. Probably the only Hispanic within the marine leadership network of a group that I worked with, plus it was very evident – you go to a symposium, and you can count the women and the other ethnicities – Blacks, Hispanics, Asians – in the room on one hand.

Even though on the surface, it all seems like everything’s great, there is usually a real struggle just to get in the boardroom and have a voice. The path that I’ve traveled has been one associated with a lot of ups and downs. Just the microaggressions that will happened in the sport and in the industry that a lot of people are oblivious to. It can happen anywhere. For example, I’m on the Diversity Committee at an organization that I’m a part of, and one of our members said, “Oh, I don’t view you as diverse. ” And I’m like, alright so I’ve done such a great job of assimilating that will I’m not viewed as diverse, but it’s also a microaggression for the perspective of what defines diverse, right? Do I have to wear a sombrero plus speak with an accent to be diverse? It is truly an opportunity in order to educate and create awareness 1 person at a time so our presence matters.   It also inspires others to become part, because they see people who look like them in leadership.

BB: What do you think is holding back increased diversity in sailing?

LS: One, is that the appearance or the particular perception that sailing, or boating in general, seems to be something that isn’t for members of underserved communities. Second, it’s a lack of access to water and access to resources; things like learning how to swim as a lifelong skill, which is the major obstacle. Lastly, the continued education part associated with boating that turns a person from a beginner to an expert. I’ve mentored youngsters here in Chicago within underserved communities, and some of them live within a mile of a lake but they have never been on the drinking water. And it’s a travesty. They’re afraid of swimming and the water; but also, it’s not part of their universe – they’re not exposed to it. And then lastly, obviously, are economic barriers in order to entry. Go to the particular Annapolis Boat Show, with regard to example, and look at what the average entry price point is for a sailboat. I would always tell my former manufacturer Beneteau, “you got to keep that barrier to entry down, you got to have a way for people in order to get in at the entry level. ” The new Beneteau 36 – that is a $450, 000 proposition, right? So now you’re only serving the very tip the iceberg financially, and you’re leaving the lot of people in the dock. I think we need to kind associated with lift that barrier regarding the benefit of the sport, but especially for underrepresented communities.

So, I guess my platform intended for DEI is about access, representation, and it’s about intentionality. I’m involved in what’s happening in business America, so I’m going to use that like a parallel. The state of California passed a law – SB 826 – that said all publicly listed companies in the state of California had to have a diverse board (more women and directors from underrepresented communities by a certain deadline in 2019 and 2021. ) So, what is the first thing that all those companies did? They put women on, but who benefited in that category? White ladies, right? Why? Because it’s the bias that we’re all born with – we like to surround ourselves with people we are usually comfortable with. We almost all surround ourselves with people that look like us, right? It’s an easy right pocket/left pocket shift. It has been also representative of the particular weak pipeline in corporate America for executives associated with color. It wasn’t until professional organizations said, “wait a minute, corporations, you are still pale – you just now have both sides of the gender equation, right? ” That is when changes started to happen. And I think that’s the precipice we are at with sailing. Gender is an easy a single because now we have more women participating inside sport. That’s a 50% increase just by having both genders participate. But the question is now how do we go regarding diving deeper into other categories, into Black, Hispanic, Asian? How do all of us create a pipeline of other groups within the sport?

BB: How did you get involved with sailing? What was your own point of entry?

LS: I became interested and learned how in order to sail through Scout camp while earning my small boat sailing merit badge. And that started with an invitation of, “Hey, you should try scouting. ” I had been very much a STEM driven kid, so I wanted to do every STEM-related merit badge I could find, and this meant learning how to sail because I was draw n to the physics of the sport. We were looking for a good additional merit badge, yet I did not continue beyond that in my youth because I did not have a consistent path to the water. We didn’t have a boat in our family and being through a blue-collar, working-class family we weren’t part associated with a Yacht Club.

But then when I graduated from undergrad and went into my profession, my colleagues would invite me to go sailing with them on J/24s. “Do you want in order to go sail with us? We’re doing Thursday night racing. ” And We thought, I’ve never done racing but thanks to scouting I know my way around the boat. So that gave me the capability to connect and make that entry back into the game. From there I actually was able to build a relationship with colleagues and become part of the cruising community. When my career took me from Chicago, il to Seattle, my immediate plugin was with the sailing community. I went to Seattle Corinthian and found out what some of their J/24 sailors were doing, plus suddenly now I has been part of an ecosystem, part of the community again.

BB: I actually want to talk about your family – I know you said that you are focused on raising generations on the water right now. How was that will developed? How has this been to share your own sailing experience with your family?

LS: My brother, who I own our boat with, also has children, so it was a foregone conclusion that they were somehow going to find a way on the water. In both of our families, as soon as we could take the kids around the drinking water, they were on the boat in the baby seat, down within the cabin of the boat or in the cockpit. Then the moment they could take cruising classes at the Yacht Club, they did. Yet we didn’t push it – we would put them in sailing camps to get two weeks out associated with the summer, and that will started when they had been five years old. Every summer they’d be inside sailing school for two weeks, and they’d cruise with family for fun on our family boat.

They learned to enjoy just being on the particular sailboat. Then little simply by little they started applying what they learned upon dinghies in sailing school to keel boats. Therefore now we’ve got 2 generations on the crew. I believe that’s where this starts for every local community, is that there’s one particular generation that leads and then the others follow. Now my daughter is sailing for her high school team. My other daughter furthermore sails but is probably more of a race committee boat person. She loves going out on a boat just to relax. How could a person not, right?

A year ago, we brought my niece on her first Chicago Mac Race. She’s an accomplished high school and collegiate sailor, having carried out terrific on her personal. She is transferring in to the larger keelboat offshore racing. It was amazing watching her smile during her first Mackinac Race. The particular first day was rough weather, we were beating the entire first 24 hours. She’s smiling, loving it – we had to pry her off the helm. She was in her own element. It’s one of the more rewarding parts of sharing the sport along with someone, when they learn to like it themselves.

BB: That’s awesome. I want to pivot back to you – I know a person are a published author. Can you show me about your most recent book?

LS: My guide Tenacity for Life is a compilation of the existence lessons I’ve learned over the years. During the particular pandemic, I was leading the Yacht Club through the shutdown, and people would say to me, “It doesn’t seem like you ever fail. It’s like you go from one successful thing to another. ” To which I thought, “Oh, you don’t understand the half of it! ” I wanted to detail my journey and the inner thoughts as an inspiration for people that might be going through challenging times. Because it is what we learn on the journey that matters.

I compare a lot of my struggles in order to sailing. A sailboat is definitely the perfect metaphor pertaining to running a company by way of running a boat. It’s getting people to the common goal: getting the boat to go fast, making sure the boat gets there safely, plus that they are getting fun. We talk regarding the different experiences that I’ve encountered, and exactly how what we should learn in sailing is that sometimes you’ve obtained to go “sideways” to get where you want to go – everything isn’t a linear trajectory. You learn to persevere within different conditions, and you understand from failing. Looking back again on my life, I have learned that even in our darkest moments, I had to go through all of them to get to the bright side.

BB: Moving back to the DEI space – what carry out you think the focus should be moving forward? What else can the sailing community do to make underserved communities feel included?

LS: I think the big thing that will we must focus upon in this DEI effort can be all the stakeholders in the sport. The challenge is we are not always welcoming, we may overcomplicate the sport, and we don’t understand the challenges individuals face just to get to take sailing lessons – something which is foreign to them. This is pervasive on many fronts. I’ll give a person an example: for an educated white male to sit in a boardroom is an accomplishment for the average person, but for a person from my community it is off the charts within magnitude. Why? Because the particular struggle is truly real. The barriers to achieve that goal are daunting as a child associated with immigrants. Now back in order to the sport – For us just to be participating in the game of cruising, no one knows exactly what challenges you went through to get there. It’s the same for women – in order to be denied the ability to be on a team just because you don’t have the strength, or whatever the misconception is, can be challenging. It’s leveling the field so that we can step up into the roles. We need advocates, we all need allies to help members of underrepresented areas do that.

We think that is one of the things you find out and that is transferable to business. On a sailboat, when a person assemble a team, you are looking for the diverse skill set in who you’re bringing together to accomplish the specific goal: go fast, help to make the fewest errors and win. As you include a diversity of backgrounds, experiences, and gender, it makes meant for a phenomenal team. With diversity on board, you’re all that more powerful.

Check out Lou’s book Tenacity for Life here: https://tenacityforlife.com  

Tenacity for a lifetime delivers a powerful and inspiring message associated with perseverance, leadership, and the American Dream. Lou’s combination of universal wisdom plus life story is entertaining and insightful, putting Tenacity for Life , like its writer, in a category by itself as it takes you down the path least traveled. If you’ve ever faced challenging times in your personal life, school, or even your career— Tenacity for Life is perfect for you.

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